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Post  chrisbwy on Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:06 am

Hello All,

I've just inherited a 1958 Cruiser 2T from my late father-in-law.

It's early days yet, the bike is basically in one piece but last run many decades ago.

It's not on a V5C and I don't have the old brown log book. I do have names of two previous owners. I checked at the Hull History Centre, the bike has a KH plate, but sadly my reg number entry card is missing, they have cards either side of mine, typical!

So my first question is, do the FB factory records exist? I have an Ariel too and those factory log books are still searchable.

Can the FB Club help with getting this bike onto a V5C and hopefully retaining its original number?

Thanks in advance, I'm sure there will be lots more questions later.

Regards

Chris


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Re: Hello - new owner 1958 Crusier 2T, bike registration help, photo added

Post  fulmar88 on Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:14 pm

Chris, In short there are no factory records so if you can't find a document with both the original reg and frame number on it then you won't be able to recover the number. John Harding (Piston197 on here) is the club dating officer and will be able to help you with the process of getting a V5C (and age related reg). I've just been through the pain of failing to retain the reg on my '64 4T Cruiser 89..

I assume you've checked it's not known by the DVLA when you say it's not on a V5C?

https://www.gov.uk/get-vehicle-information-from-dvla


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Re: Hello - new owner 1958 Crusier 2T, bike registration help, photo added

Post  chrisbwy on Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:08 pm

Thanks for the info Steve.

FB records was a long shot, shame.

DVLA does not recognise the number.

I suspect I will not find any original docs with frame+reg no on but will keep looking.

Let me get the bike home, this weekend, then I'll post a photo and get in touch with John for help.

Regards

Chris

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Re: Hello - new owner 1958 Crusier 2T, bike registration help, photo added

Post  FBKev on Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:25 pm

Welcome to the forum Chris. When I registered my Falcon 81 I had similar. But no reg number, when details sent to DVLA with John's (Piston 197) help It turned out it was still on their system though listed as scrapped in 1995 & I ended up getting the original number back so it could worth a go?
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Post  chrisbwy on Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:46 pm

Thanks Kev for the tip. I'll try that, you never know the DVLA might have some snippet of info somewhere. At least I have two previous keeper details which is something, though sadly not specific enough about the bike only its owners.

I'd love to know why/where my missing index card is!!

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HELLO - NEW OWNER 1958 CRUSIER 2T, BIKE REGISTRATION HELP - PHOTO ADDED

Post  chrisbwy Yesterday at 10:49 am

Not the best photo, but one of my latest acquisition on its way to a new home.

I have the front mudguard and headlamp cowl. Need to check in more detail if anything else is missing.

Click on image to view full, not sure why it's clipped.




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Re: Hello - new owner 1958 Crusier 2T, bike registration help, photo added

Post  FBKev Yesterday at 4:22 pm

Doesn't look to bad. sort the engine/electrics wipe with an oily rag and ride as is. I know some will shoot me, but I love the age patina, on the other hand a sympathetic restoration is good too.
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Post  piston 197 Yesterday at 6:17 pm

In the first instance go to the Post office and get a V62 application for a lost logbook, fill it in and send to DVLA, leave the registration blank and just fill in the Chassis No, DVLA will do a search to see if that frame No is allocated to a Reg No, you have to send them a cheque for 25, (send them a photo of the bike, frame No and engine No to help the process), if the search comes to Nowt, they return your cheque, if it is found to be registered they send you a logbook.
If this fails contact me to get the necessary to register it on an age related number

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Post  FB vincent Today at 7:36 am

Chris,

A few thoughts on your Cruiser Twin. You suggest it is a 1958 Cruiser, but at that time only the AMC single cylinder 25T engine was offered in this frame, and it was not until 1962 that the Villiers 2T engine was fitted. The frame prefix for 1958 is ZC. It is possible of course that a 2T engine has been fitted to replace the original AMC 25T.

Your bike is also fitted with the later James Mk 2 front forks, so assuming that these are original it will date the bike to model year 1963 (Cruiser 89 frame prefix EH). By 1964 the Villiers 4T engine was fitted to the Cruiser 89.

From your photo it appears that the 2T engine is fitted with the larger S25 carburettor, rather than the FB specified S22 which fitted under an aluminium bonnet with integral air cleaner.

If you let us know the frame prefix letters and engine prefix numbers it may be possible to identify some more history of the bike.

Arthur Gent's book 'Francis Barnett - The Complete Story' gives plenty of information about the later bikes.

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