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Post  FrankG on Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:52 pm

Hi all, I have been offered a Excelsior Courier 150cc villiers, it is a basket case and incomplete. I have trying to find more info and photos as I was told there were parts in other sheds and I want know what I'm looking for. I have a reg no SRB 35 ( not on DVLA ) but no other numbers yet. Is there a Excelsior club if so does anyone have contact details as I can't seem to find one.

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Post  piston 197 on Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:32 am

SRB registrations started at SRB 1 in Nov. 1952, so the odds on the bike is a 1953 model as the new models were launched in August 1952 for the 1953 year, ( or it could be a 1952 model which had sat unsold for a few months )?

You need to google some pics of a 1953 Courier and look at what you have to determine what is /is not there, Excelsior were using their own engine at that time and parts for that are going to be difficult.

Or if you prefer i have a complete ( less speedo) 1955 Sun 150cc Villiers with V5 that i can sell you instead ? It is all there, except speedo ( seized engine) and fitted with Villiers 30C engine for which all of the parts are available.
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Post  FrankG on Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:10 pm

Thanks John
It belonged to a neighbour who as die and wife has asked me if want it but if I don't want it I would like find out what she has so it can be sold. I did a search and only came up sale brochures but they did have drawing so some idea whats what. It has a Villiers engine in the frame, do you know if the tin ware is common to any other make or model.

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Post  piston 197 on Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:51 pm

The Courier used Excelsiors own engine which has a bolt on Albion gearbox and Wipac ignition ( similar to the bantam, but on the other side), forks wheels gaurds etc, are shared with the Excelsior talisman twin, but not any other similar period machine, their forks wheels and tinware is all peculiar to Excelsior
The Courier used Excelsior's own 148cc engine and was available from 1953, so it is possible if it has a Villiers engine it is either a 122cc Universal or a 197cc Roadmaster and not a Courier at all ? I only gave the above information because you said it was a Courier . Engine nimber will allow me to confirm whether it is a 122cc 10D engine or a 197cc 6E engine
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Post  FrankG on Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:53 pm

She has the buff log book which state it's a courier and and has the same reg as the bike but I have not checked any other numbers yet, it may be a bitsa.

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Post  FrankG on Sat Sep 01, 2018 8:55 pm

Hi, the bike was registered 24th Nov 1952 engine no E/162, frame no E/143 this is from the log book not got to check if the are the same on the bike yet. It has an Excelsior engine.

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Post  piston 197 on Sat Sep 01, 2018 9:04 pm

Yes that makes sense rather than the first post which said it had a Villiers engine, the Courier model C1 with their own Excelsior engine was introduced for the 1953 season and would have been available from around Auigust 1952 and fits with the registration date. Most makers started their frame and engine No.s at 101, so a frame and engine No, in the 143/ 162 range would fit for an early example. Quirky little thing, but engine spares are likely to be a problem.
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Post  FrankG on Sun Sep 02, 2018 7:53 am

Thanks John

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