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Post  kerabo on Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:20 pm

On another site we are trying to identfy this bike and engine.

Anyone know what bike and engine this is?

The barrel is cast with 346cc. W

The engine number is WYZL

Frame number D9518

Thanks Ken






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Post  piston 197 on Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:03 pm

Ken if i had to have a guess i would say it is an Excelsior Colonial which was fitted with the 250cc Villiers watercooled engine, i bought one of these from Peter Missurio in London and sold it to the VMCC Marque specialist Bob Gutteridge in Worcester, if anyone can be certain i would think he is the man ? The frame rules out SOS which also used this engine !
If it is an Excelsior a frame prefix of "D" would make it 1934, the "W" at the front of the Villiers pre-fix denotes it a water cooled
There was one of these "D" pre-fixed Villiers mounted frames at the last Ross autojumble sold by a stall holder and purchased by the man who bought a 500cc JAP engined 1934 Excelsior off me .
Some the parts are non period so look like it has been finished using what parts were available .
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Post  kerabo on Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:06 pm

Thanks John

I will,pass that on.

Regards Ken
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Re: What's this

Post  bill2b on Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:40 pm

Ken
Saw this on the other site, its a lovely looking beast eh.
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Watercooled Villiers

Post  piston 197 on Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:44 pm

I have a 14A 250cc bottom end and a SOS 250cc water cooled barrel and head, just need the rest of the bike, and i could have one as well, i do have a complete Excelsior, but that is a 350cc OHC Manxman, so won't be taking the engine out of that to put a water cooled villiers into it !

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Post  kerabo on Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:48 am

bill2b wrote:Ken
Saw this on the other site, its a lovely looking beast eh.

I thought someone had just fitted an industrial engine. It looks very nice.

Wonder how it goes.
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Post  piston 197 on Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:55 am

Ken, Len Vale Onslow developed the watercooled head for his SOS machines and they were made by Villiers, subsequently Villiers offered them to other manufacturers including Excelsior

Watercooled top ends were made in 172, 246 and 346cc to fit villiers bottom ends

Some where i have copies of all of the SOS paperwork including copies of patents etc

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