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Plover with Engine Number 12T 5090

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Plover with Engine Number 12T 5090

Post  Farley on Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:49 pm

Evening all. I have just finished restoring a Plover with an AMC engine numbered 12T 5090. It is definitely marked 12T not 15T. Would anyone be able to help date the engine?

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Plover - AMC engine

Post  keith livingstone on Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:14 pm

Hello
Just caught your post. I have 1964 Plover Model 95 with the AMC 150cc engine. What age is your Plover?
As mine engine was a basket I have a few casings all 15T's however. From books I've never seen any reference
to anything other than a 150cc. I have one barrel which must have come from a scooter due to angle of intake port.
These c cases were still 15T, Maybe some of the scooter guys had a 120cc engine? Or maybe someone incorrectly re stamped your eng. no,

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Post  piston 197 on Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:26 am

As Midge Ure once said " it means nothing to me" AMC 150 engines were numbered 15T ( and there were some 16T stamped engines destined for scooter production that ended up in some late bikes as they used up what they had)
There were no 12T engines, so it is either a non-factory stamping , or someone at the time picked up the wrong stamp ??

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Re: Plover with Engine Number 12T 5090

Post  Farley on Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:41 pm

Sorry for the delayed reply. My Plover is 1958 going off the frame number and the book of Francis Barnett.

I’ve measured the bore and the stroke and it is a 150cc engine. I guess some one picked up the wrong stamp.

Do you have any recommendations for gear box oil?

Many thanks for your replies.

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Post  piston 197 on Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:00 pm

Then there is something else strange there if your frame No checks out as 1958 ? because the 15T AMC engine Plover 86 was not made until September 1959 ? are you sure you have an AMC engine and not a Villiers 150 engine ? i will send you a p.m with my Email address if you could send pictures of bike and engine i might be a bit more clued up
Frame Nos for first AMC engined Plover 86 started B-10386 in Sept 1959
frame Nos. for 1958 Villiers engined Plover78 started A-3817 and ended A-10127R

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Re: Plover with Engine Number 12T 5090

Post  Farley on Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:59 pm

My mistake, I meant 1959. The frame number is B 11487. Perhaps this might even be 1960?

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Post  piston 197 on Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:15 pm

Yes B is a 1960 model of plover 86, actually made from September 1959 to end of August 1960
Starting No B-10386 and ending B-11996, so with a number of B-11487 yours is only 500ish. from the finish date out of a production of approx 1610 that year model, so definitely 1960, which will mean if used before May next year will require an MOT, after May 2018 this changes and a MOT will no longer be required

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Re: Plover with Engine Number 12T 5090

Post  Farley on Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:19 pm

Thanks for the info John, it’s interesting to know how many they made of that model. Do you have any recommendations for gearbox oil?

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Post  piston 197 on Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:30 pm

In spite of anything else you may read a standard 20/50 motor oil is fine in the gearbox

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Re: Plover with Engine Number 12T 5090

Post  Farley on Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:53 pm

That’s good to know as that’s what I’ve been using. I’ve just stripped it down to replace the gaskets and O rings and thought I’d ask before refilling. I wonder why the AMC engines have such a bad reputation as I get on well with mine.

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Re: Plover with Engine Number 12T 5090

Post  Cruiser79 on Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:46 am

I've wondered myself about their bad reputation. A friend of mine had a large bike shop in Dublin which was in his ownership from the 1950's-1990's. He had alot of francis barnetts through the door over the years and when I told him I was rebuilding one he asked "villiers?". I said it was an AMC engine he bluntly told me they were rubbish and almost looked at me in shame! I asked what was wrong with them and he said they were were badly put together at the factory
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