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Alternate front wheel/brakes for 1958 Falcon?

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Post  FronkMctagget on Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:47 pm

Hi,

I'm wondering if there are any other front wheels including brake assembly that would fit a 1958 falcon? Basically I'm wanting to replace the front hub with something with a useful front brake, but I don't want to replace the whole front end. I don't mind doing a respoke.

Has anyone tried this? Are there any 60s UK hubs or entire assemblys that might fit?

This is about the only thing stopping me from getting rego; no matter how well the front brake is set up, I feel too unsafe riding around on todays roads.

Cheers!


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Post  piston 197 on Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:44 pm

Quickest and esasiest way is to substitute the front 5" hub for the 6" one from the cruiser,straight slot in,no mods required,JH
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Falcon front brake.

Post  myquest on Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:20 am

I've been trying to go down the 6" swap route - but have yet to find a Cruiser wheel or hub. Er - do you have any, JH?
In the meantime I'm working on a double leading shoe mod for my 5" unit. Will be interesting to see if there's much improvement. Don't hold your breath...
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Post  FronkMctagget on Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:03 pm

As much as I'd love to use an FB hub, would there not be another bike with an 8" twin leading up that might be coaxed into fitting? I'm looking for the same stopping power as a late '60s Brit bike or better. Something to work with modern trafic, and not country roads. I want to turn this bike into a daily rider.

Surely someone else has had the same ideal modifying a FB? Would a late BSA (say, an A65 or a newer Enfield) hub get close to fitting?

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Post  piston 197 on Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:05 pm

Personally i don't think the forks are up to an A65 brake,or have enough width to accomodate one,i would be looking at the 60's/70's Japanese hubs 150mm twin leaders from the yamaha/suzuki/honda,but something will have to be engineered to suit these as they all have knock thru spindles,JH
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Re: Alternate front wheel/brakes for 1958 Falcon?

Post  FronkMctagget on Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:09 pm

Much appreciated, that gives me a bit to work with! Cheers!

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Twin Leaders

Post  MoscowFlyer on Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:04 pm

Hi, heres a nice bit of gear, if you could find one with a hub, and it wasn't to wide, it would work well and being 130mm it would look well too. Mike
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-XL500-R-XR500R-Twin-leading-shoe-font-brake-/290722303094?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item43b0664c76
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modification of 6" brake.

Post  ariel49 on Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:09 am

FronkMctagget wrote:Hi,

I'm wondering if there are any other front wheels including brake assembly that would fit a 1958 falcon? Basically I'm wanting to replace the front hub with something with a useful front brake, but I don't want to replace the whole front end. I don't mind doing a respoke.

Has anyone tried this? Are there any 60s UK hubs or entire assemblys that might fit?

This is about the only thing stopping me from getting rego; no matter how well the front brake is set up, I feel too unsafe riding around on todays roads.

Cheers!

Well, I would look at more ferocious brake lining material for a start. Next, I'd manufacture a bridle plate tieing the brake cam to the swing pin, to keep them from coming closer together on the inside of the brake, and lastly re-make it into a semi-servo brake. Servo front brakes have to be carefully looked after, because they can be very fierce. Fierce enough to lock up the front wheel, and toss you into the pucker brush.

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Front brake

Post  kerabo on Thu Apr 28, 2016 7:49 pm

Poor little bike. Think an 8" brake would bend the forks back to the frame .
There is always the Norton fork option if they fit yours then you could ave a better brake .
There was a bike on our stand at Stafford with a very neat converted twin leading shoe brake made from the FB 6" hub

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Post  FrankG on Thu Apr 28, 2016 9:34 pm

Has any one thought of using a cable operated disc like the honda cb100n. I know it wont look right but if you want something more modern it might be worth a look.

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Wheel/Brake options

Post  piston 197 on Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:12 am

The matchless G2 used the same 6" brake as the FB Cruiser,made by Bruitish Hub Co, but in their CSR models used the alloy 6" motoallybrake also made by British Hub, I am sure one of these could be made to fit a FB as the set up is similar, there was also a 7" version with twin leading shoe used in the Greeves Silverstone and Cotton Telstar, but one of these will probably set you back 300, personally I would be looking at something like the twin leader used n the Honda CB160
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Post  kerabo on Sat Apr 30, 2016 6:59 pm

I always thought the 6" brake was quiet enough for these bikes. With quality linings and bedded in they work well.

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